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Longasc · Jul 18, 2007, 04:48 PM // 16:48

They are not "perfect" in the sense of what is generally wanted the most.

This is no coincidence. They always carefully pick useful mods, but take care not to make them count to the best weapons there is. Would diminish the incentive to get endgame greens and rare skins.

Closest to this are the Nevermore Flatbow, the Rhino Hammer and the Serrated Shield. Too bad you can no longer add a grip to them, the Rhino Hammer would then be a perfect weapon. But I think this is already countered by the fact that Hammers are not too popular outside PvP, and not overly much in PvP either.

BTW: Maybe the "Fiery Destroyers" are vulnerable to Cold Damage. IDS and the Preorder Glacial Blade would then just rock.

prism2525 · Jul 18, 2007, 05:55 PM // 17:55

Are these gonna be available from the online store? I can't get them otherwise without paying GROSS shipping fees (over $50) which would be... dumb.

AlienFromBeyond · Jul 18, 2007, 06:19 PM // 18:19

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Originally Posted by prism2525

Are these gonna be available from the online store? I can't get them otherwise without paying GROSS shipping fees (over $50) which would be... dumb.

Yeah, you can get the prerelease package in the online store.

If the Glacial Blade has a cool skin, buh-bye IDS. And the staff will be quite useful for any new caster heroes we get. Same for the bow and rangers.

You just got tomahawked · Jul 18, 2007, 06:28 PM // 18:28

I wouldn't mind using the sword on a conjure warrior.

Molock · Jul 18, 2007, 06:49 PM // 18:49

Hey, the staff (fire spec) has ok specs... I can't say the same for the other weapons though.

Series · Jul 18, 2007, 06:49 PM // 18:49

The nightfall prerelease items are perfect :-P

Sarevok Thordin · Jul 18, 2007, 07:02 PM // 19:02

Please Anet, let us inscribe that sword ._.

I like my plague touch ._.

Navaros · Jul 18, 2007, 07:14 PM // 19:14

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Originally Posted by Series

The nightfall prerelease items are perfect :-P

No, they aren't. "Icy" and "Fiery" are not the best weapon mods. And there are lots of reasons to want to use something other than "Of Enchanting" or "Of Shelter " in many situations.

HawkofStorms · Jul 18, 2007, 07:26 PM // 19:26

People who bash "icy" and "fiery" mods are the same people who use Sundering (by the way, by dealing elemental damage, you bypass a warriors +20 armor vs physical damage, thus an elemental weapon is equivalent to a 100/20 Sundering weapon when used against a warrior).

Jeremy Untouchable · Jul 18, 2007, 07:36 PM // 19:36

spinal shivers?..

Malice Black · Jul 18, 2007, 07:47 PM // 19:47

Better then the GOTY items, only one I use from them is the Serrated Shield <3

King's Spectre · Jul 18, 2007, 07:48 PM // 19:48

Ooo! Just realized my warrior will finally have a max sword in presearing.

countesscorpula · Jul 18, 2007, 07:51 PM // 19:51

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Originally Posted by Selket

Taken from EBgames:

So you get two completely useless items since they're uninscribable and then a spiritbinder for all classes.

hoo-ray?

The sword looks great for W/Ds and W/Es. The enchantments that work with cold damage in both professions can be pretty cool. And +15 while enchanted. That would be a "Guided by fate" inscription. And room for the pommel of your choice.

A sundering bow with 15% and - 5 energy... Sundering works nicely in every situation (one of the most sought after bow strings), and -5 e is made up for easily with expertise. This is a "Brawn of Brains" inscription, btw. And room for the bowgrip of your choice.

The staff.
15 energy (Base ten + 5 insightful staff head)
HSR 20% (Base on a max staff)
HCT 10% (Perfect "don't think twice" inscription)
+45 HP when enchanted (Perfect Devotion staff wrapping)

That makes a maxed out staff, useable by any casting profession.

So, none of these are "completely useless." All come with inscriptions (permanent ones, but they are there), and at least one maxed mod. And unlike the Spiritbinder, this one comes with a staff wrapping, as mentioned earlier. If you want a bare item that will accept prefix and suffix mods, go visit a collector or a crafter. These items were made to be relatively generic and "perfect" in order to please a wide variety of people. If you need something else to fit your dream build, other items are available in the game.

A better question about these items would be, why does the ritualist get a flashy pre-order weapon, but the dervish, paragon, and assassin are left out? Just wondering...

Robin_Anadri · Jul 18, 2007, 07:51 PM // 19:51

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Originally Posted by King's Spectre

Ooo! Just realized my warrior will finally have a max sword in presearing.

Bonus items won't spawn in pre.

Rocky Raccoon · Jul 18, 2007, 07:57 PM // 19:57

If you don't think the items are acceptable don't pre-order.

countesscorpula · Jul 18, 2007, 08:00 PM // 20:00

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Originally Posted by Longasc

Closest to this are the Nevermore Flatbow, the Rhino Hammer and the Serrated Shield. Too bad you can no longer add a grip to them, the Rhino Hammer would then be a perfect weapon. But I think this is already countered by the fact that Hammers are not too popular outside PvP, and not overly much in PvP either.

Gaile posted in another thread about pre-order items that devs are currently working on fixing the GOTY items and other pre-orders so that they will be able to accept mods again, and will thus not be "half modded" anymore. Hope that's good news to some poeple.